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  1. 1

    Tom Reilly

    A ” five foot landscape zone” should include several types of native trees: Dogwoods, wax myrtle, hawthorns, holly, fringe trees, etc. Their root zones should be small enough to let such trees grow in that size space. Should be really beautiful when it.s completed!!

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    MK

    Please situate plants between road and sidewalk. Are bike lanes going to enter the discussion too? Also improve the Osborne Rd crossing. I see so many near accidents with cars almost running over pedestrians.

  3. 3

    NTM

    Almost 4 years after becoming a city for the reason of “traffic, sidewalks, and potholes” the city has decided to put down its first section of city paid sidewalk. Wait, no, the federal grant is covering that. So why exactly did we become a city? And where are all the tax dollars going that were supposed to fix “local issues”

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    Riley O'Connor

    Not mentioned is that the change from 45 mph southbound traffic to 35 mph occurs very abruptly just south of Osborne Road. You have miles of 45 mph, with large speed signs to one smaller 35 mph sign in front of Brookhaven Park. Just after another large 45 mph sign. In earlier days, most people missed this 35 mph sign simply because they were going too fast. Now, of course, traffic slows considerably because of cars stopped at Dresden Drive.

  5. 5

    Toff

    Why not sole source it to the same guys that did the Chamblee section? They did a good job

  6. 6

    Eddie E.

    Where?

  7. 7

    ashamed

    2000 new appartments, office space, retail, several mixed use developments and a “road diet”. Yeah, traffic is going to be a grand thing for Brookhaven. We can change the city seal to be a bumper to bumper mess with a cherry blossom.

    Don’t get me wrong, I’m all for shaded sidewalks and safe places to ride bikes but to think that the ‘road diet’ and unbriddled development will work together… a pipe dream.

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    Toff

    There is a master plan on the Chamblee site but you can see sections from the Walmart heading north and then west along Chamblee Dunwoody outside the high school, there are also sections around Broad Street. I dont think its finished (and dont know why not) but it looks good.

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    Eric Robert

    Dogwoods won’t survive with all the traffic, wind, pollution and heat from the pavement. Wax Myrtle’s, hawthorns and holly’s are not very exciting. We need some overstory hardwoods which will one day grow tall enough to shade Peachtree. The best pedestrian amenity after a sidewalk is shade for that sidewalk. And hardwoods like Oaks are perfect since in the winter when pedestrians want the sun and heat they lose their leaves.

    If the 5 foot landscaped zone isn’t enough room for that then perhaps look at lessening the 5 feet to accommodate trees on the other side of the sidewalk away from the Street or do some curve outs of the sidewalk, though I hesitate to recommend that since too many curve outs make the trip by foot longer – in other words a straight line is the shortest distance.

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    Eric Robert

    The third (center) southbound lane isn’t really needed since you it ends at Dresden and most people are continuing through to Druid Hills and further South along Peachtree to Buckhead. It actually ends up to more weaving and cutting. Of course leave the left hand turn lane for Dresden. But removing that lane could actually make things better at the main bottleneck by Dresden and North Druid Hills.

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    fyi

    Whoever designed the wavy continuously S shaped sidewalks in this area and others in Chamblee has obviously never walked any distance on a regular basis. It may be aesthetically pleasing but is very impractical. The shortest distance between two points is in fact a straight line.

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    Chad

    MOST traffic headed south either turns right onto Dresden or NDH. Try driving from Dunkin’ Donuts to Kaleidoscope any afternoon between 4-7. Gridlock. After the MARTA adds 650 apartment units, 2 parking decks, 20,000 sf of commercial and a hotel….parking lot.

    The road the central planners have planned will go straight thru the old library. Cost? Around $4M. That’s what the redirected lane from Windsor into Roswell Road cost. That is one of 4 intersections that will need reworking upon the MARTA nightmare.

    Amanda Rhein made some suggestion the improved land will add $200M to the tax digest. That means at most $2M/year towards additional police coverage, storm water resources and roads. MARTA is currently requesting a tax abatement that will lower that figure even more. This might be even a worse deal that CHOA.

  13. 13

    Eddie E.

    I can also assume that the pointless wavy shape must be considerably more expensive (or if you are doing the construction ‘more profitable’) than a simple, effective straight line.

  14. 14

    Eddie E.

    “Overstory Hardwoods”, like we used to have on Peachtree.
    Apparently they didn’t carry sufficient panache’.

  15. 15

    Dean

    Creating all that new develpment and no sound traffic plan. It looks like the utopian Brookhaven drean for Brookhaven Heights and Brookhaven Fields will soon diminish.

  16. 16

    South Side Bill

    Will this impact District 1?
    If not, don’t sweat the small stuff Brookhaven.

  17. 17

    jennifer

    already is. NDH, Dresden, Peachtree will look just like Peachtree, Roxboro, Lenox in 5 years. No single homes, just 10 – 20 story buildings. That is what happened there and what will happen here. Traffic nightmare, people sell, big tall buildings that sit mostly empty are built. Developers take their money and run, neighborhood crushed.

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    Sylvia

    To encourage commercial growth and high rise buildings look for the city to encourage the county to increase property assessment values so only developers can afford them.

  19. 19

    City-Weary

    Something I’ve been wondering about — it doesn’t relate to Peachtree as it relates to planning for sidewalks and bike lanes… Why is there redundancy in bike lanes on Ashford-Dunwoody between Johnson Ferry and West Nancy Creek? There’s a PATH trail that runs long that stretch as well as bike lanes on the road. Why does the road need bike lanes — wouldn’t it be safer to have the cyclists using the PATH trail?

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    Eric Robert

    PATH is for recreation, note how it winds around Blackburn.
    Bike Lanes are a transportation mode.

    And as the area gets denser more and more people will start using bikes as a means of transportation. Serious Bikers who bike to work or other necessities have the same goals as those traveling by car, to get from Point A to Point B.

    PATH trails, including this one are not built for high speed travel (relative to bikes) or with the goal of providing an efficient method of getting from Point A to Point B, note how it meanders through Blackburn Park. This is why PATH trails are usually not built along roads but through natural areas, true in this case for a short distance the PATH runs along Ashford Dunwooody but that is because it was a cheaper way to link Blackburn and Murphey Candler with a recreational trail.

    Though one place where a trail may make sense as a transportation vehicle (and even recreational) is to link Chamblee Dunwoody at Georgetown to the Perimeter Center since right now there are no direct surface streets that Bikes (or pedestrians) can use to get from all of the development on Chamblee Dunwoody, Cotillion and Savoy to the Perimeter Center.

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    Eric Robert

    I assume you meant “most SB traffic turns left.” But most? My observations are different. Are there traffic counts on that? If that is the case they should install 2 left hand turn lanes instead of leaving 2 SB through lanes.

    And I am certainly not advocating for or against any traffic improvements, but any traffic improvement like the one you mention would do more than service the proposed development. After all, the traffic from this development will still be a just a fraction of the existing traffic that is largely cut through traffic as seen by the SB Peachtree Traffic and 85 to Peachtree traffic via Druid Hills) and from current area and future area development) so ascribing the entire 4 million to this development isn’t really fair.

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    Eric Robert

    fyi I agree. Its designed by someone who doesn’t view walking as a mode of transportation which explains a lot about why many of our cities are poorly laid out.

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