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Barbara
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Our country needs Immigration. However, there has to be a system of laws that are actually enforced. These people knew what they were doing was illegal but at no point was ANY responsibility placed on them for coming to the US the lawful way. No one wants to see families broken or children without parents, no one.

We cannot simply be a nation without boarders. Please Gigi, can you tell us the immigration and deportation policies of Mexico? Because I can’t help but notice you left out those deportation statistics, which for the record are much greater than ours.

Enviro
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So you think labor laws should be enforced?

I assume that means you are appalled at the idea of a rich white guy who broke immigration laws by hiring an illegal immigrant was appointed by the president to be Secretary of Labor?

Sally Forth
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As long as illegal immigrants are here to hire for lawn care, cleaning, etc, of course people hire them. They can undercut the prices charged by U.S. Citizens or companies. If you have never hired an illegal you are the exception.

DresdenDog
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“While Canadians almost double the number of Mexicans overstaying their visas and therefore staying in the country unlawfully, we have not heard any reports of Canadians being detained or deported for breaking federal law” I know you singled out “visas”, but are you also arguing that there are more Canadian undocumented/illegal immigrants in the United States than Mexican? You also argue about the cost of deportation but fail to mention the BILLIONS that it costs American Taxpayers in education and healthcare costs. Let’s flip the switch. I want to live in Cabo San Lucas but don’t want to go thru the legal… Read more »
Kim
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Thank you, Gigi, for your leadership and tireless efforts. So shines a bright light in a weary world.

Heather
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Agreed. Thanks Gigi.

Sovereign Citizen
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You need to join me and help me complete my list of American laws I feel should be ignored.

Heather
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Here you go.

http://www.dumblaws.com/laws/united-states/georgia

Maybe some people would be a lot happier if they went out and bought an, uh, rabbit.

American
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If you don’t like American laws, leave. No one will stop you.

Heather
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“American”- you should consider reading up more on American history.

MattW
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Heather -you are not mis-informed rather uninformed-there is a legal process for immigration-that needs to be folloowed or change the law

You agree that you should ignore DUI laws too if you disagree with them?

Heather
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My understanding of basic American principles is that the police or other legal authorities can’t drive around persecuting and harassing people based purely on the color of their skin.

Tom Reilly
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The photograph accompanying this article makes my blood run cold. What about the man’s family, let alone his contribution to his community?? Our son-in-law is from Columbia, my wife grew up in Peru and El Salvador, both of us speak Spanish. Substitute the word “Jew” for “Latino” and see how this particular theory is working out in practice–again??

Sally Forth
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Are you saying they arebillegal? Or simply legal immigrants? If illegal, they should go back and come in through legal means.

Saul
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Tom, if your wife and son-in-law came here legally they have nothing to fear. Maybe the words to substitute should be “Christian” for “Muslim”.

Heather
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This is actually incorrect. Brown-skinned people are being stopped, harassed and interrogated– it even happened to one of my friends that has her doctorate degree and a pretty prestigious career. She has ALWAYS been a citizen and has her doctorate degree from a top American university.

Mills
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Illegal is illegal, thats why its called that. The anchor baby rule is ridiculous, no other country in the world has a rule like that. Illegally come into the us and have multiple kids that are citizens, cmon. Healthcare and education are not free, taxpayers, many without kids, have to pay for that. If we fall short of blue collar workers then we have a controlled, legal process to let people in on work visas. No other country, except Germany in the last couple of years, lets mass amounts of people come in like we have over the past 30-40… Read more »
Dump Trump
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From A CNN Article By Tal Kopan, CNN, Updated 2:50 PM ET, Sat January 28, 2017 – The immigration executive orders signed by President Donald Trump this week could amount to a vast expansion of authority for individual immigration officers and a dramatic increase in efforts to detain and deport undocumented immigrants. The order lays out a series of categories of undocumented immigrants that immigration law enforcement officials should prioritize for removing from the country, a reaction to what was criticized by the right as lax enforcement of immigration law by former President Barack Obama. But experts say the descriptions… Read more »
Sally Forth
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Citing CNN for the purpose of persuasion is not oarticularly effective given its express bias.

Eric Robert
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Before 1997 you could apply for a Green Card through a U.S. Child. Since 1997 they have to be 21 years old and if you entered without papers it’s still very difficult to get a Green Card. The utter falsehood of the Anchor Baby argument is a perfect example of the utter dishonesty of certain race baiting done by certain politicians. As to costs, undocumented immigrants pay taxes. Google immigrants and social security taxes. They pay sales taxes and property taxes, yes even those who rent pay property taxes. In fact in DeKalb Rental units are taxed at a higher… Read more »
Dean
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Now tell us the rest of the cost story as it relates to the expense to the US as it relates to illegals.

Heather
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“illegal is illegal”

How are US residents with green cards illegal?

Heather
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Didn’t many illegal immigrants help build the city of Atlanta?

What a wonderful way to repay them.

American
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If you commit a crime in this country, you pay the price. How many of these people being sent back DID NOT commit a major crime?

Kim
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The problem is that it is a crime to lie in these scenarios where perfectly harmless people are lying on job applications, lying to get an ID to work or drive, and lying to avoid being arrested … for lying. No one I hear is defending a gang member, a murderer, etc, from immigration action. Jumping to that conclusion about Gigi’s editorial and some of the comments here reveals only that some have completely lost the ability to listen and process information.

Mikael Ohman
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Very thoughtful. While illegal immigration is a problem for any society and has to managed appropriately, actions like this are troubling for a few other reasons not mentioned in this opinion. 1. I lived and worked in the old Soviet Union many years ago. The Soviets required all citizens to carry an “internal” passport at all times that showed resident rights for a given city. I first hand witnessed raids at rail stations and markets where parents not carrying the paperwork were detained on the spot and sent away, leaving kids to fend for themselves. And saw situations where legal… Read more »
Susan
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Welcome to America and thank you for coming legally.

Mikael Ohman
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Susan – with all due respect you’re missing my point. I came to a inclusive country with values I supported and respected. At current course and speed I would leave behind a country that’s hostile and doesn’t want a thing to do with me or my fellow immigrants. If I had known this would happen I would never have moved here and stayed where I came from. Not perfect, but at least compassionate and not openly xenophobic.

Susan
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So Mikael, you have just now found out about our laws relating to people entering and residing in our country illegally?

Heather
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Can you show evidence that it’s legal to detain and deport green card holders?

Huh.

Sarge
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Bravo Serria. Read the terms associated with your green card and share it with us.

RAJ
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As they say…don’t let the screen door hit you on the way out!

Posey
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Tell me what good this does? Those men are leaving families behind that they supported. This solves nothing!

Sally Forth
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They are free to take their families with them, and should. They knew they were here illegally and that they bore children in utter dusregard for those children’s status. Children should not be used as excuses to stay, or anchors.

BlahBlahBlahBlah
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You can not deport a US citizen. Those children you are ready to callously deport back to a country they are not from are legally allowed to be here. Talk about utter DISREGARD for children. They are not anchors. They are citizens.

Larsen B.
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Don’t you realize it isn’t that easy? What if they can’t afford to travel back, I doubt ICE will pay for that. How do they survive with no income?

American
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They seem to come up with the thousands of dollars they pay to come to this country. They seem to come up with cash when they need too.

Randy Watson
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Posey – this fulfills a republican fantasy land (where they see only in black and white) about ‘getting tough.’ When in reality, those folks they have singled out are often already marginalized and in the shadows. In most instances those same folks are here just looking for an honest day’s work and are willing to do the jobs that not many ‘red blooded Americans’ seem to want to do any more (e.g., landscaping, working on farms, janitorial, etc.). For all of the throw-’em out crowd, who else would Jesus choose to throw to the curb?

Heather
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Isn’t it funny that most Republicans had no problem building Atlanta illegally? As long as there was cheap labor?

NOW there’s concern about illegal labor after the city has been built.

“Funny” how that works.

Sally Forth
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Those red blooded Americans you are talking about may be collecting welfare. If we rid ourselves of illegal immigrants we will open jobs to them. If they are too fine to take thise jobs they should lose their welfare payments.

BlahBlahBlahBlah
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I want people to take a few minutes to drive up and down Buford Hwy and imagine yourselves living in these apartments, 1 or 2 bedrooms, with 5,6, 7 roommates. You work 3 jobs, and if you have no family here you send all your money back to your home country so you can support your family, to try to give them a better life. Many of the buildings are substandard, and they can’t afford furniture, clothes, anything. They work jobs that no one commenting on this site would want to take. They move here, to these awful conditions, not… Read more »
Heather
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Unfortunately a lot of people have reached a very scary place where they no longer feel empathy towards those they’ve deemed “others”. Several years ago a street in the Atlanta part of my neighborhood near Buford Highway started blocking off a street from cars for trick-r-treating. Some people started complaining that they didn’t like “others” that didn’t live in houses nearby coming into the neighborhood “expecting free handouts”. (Isn’t all Halloween candy technically a “free handout”?) So several people’s solution was to essentially start giving out separate “white-kid” and “non-white kid” candy. (The “white” candy is much better. ) It… Read more »
May
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I agree. After a year or so, the gate was closed in my neighborhood on Halloween. Still shocked. When did so many of us lose what it means to be Americans?

Sally Forth
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I can only assume your home was not broken into yet, by a team of Mexican immigrants, as mine was. These oeople are breaking the law. The law is, and was clear. They can stay in Mexico and try to make it a better place as far as sending money back to Mexico they are taking it out of our country, depriving our economy. Many countries have prohibitions against sending funds out. We should too.

Enviro
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I have been a victim of crimes. Always white guys. But I am not an advocate of holding all white guys responsible. Except perhaps the Trump cabinet. Totally fine with seeing those crooks getting rounded up.

Heather
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Sally,

if the day comes that my house is robbed by some alleged “Mexican immigrants ” casing my house as trick-r-treaters– I will happily say that I that I still stand by my decision to have lived my life as a happy, tolerant person not living my life in a constant state of anger, paranoia and fear.

May
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Bravo!

abc
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They broke the law.

Dump Trump
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ANYONE in the USA – Illegally or Legally – HAS RIGHTS.

Sally Forth
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The people in the United States have rights too. And ours trump theirs.

American
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Remember the silent majority.

American
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If you are in this country illegally then you have broken the law. It plain and simple.

Enviro
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So did Trump’s Labor Sec nominee, Andrew Puzder, who hired an illegal immigrant.

Shoot, so is Trump, with his violation of ethics laws and the Constitution! But conservatives seem pretty cool with utter lawlessness among rich white dudes, even though it hurts them far more than what these immigrants have done.

Hunter Burke
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I am so very confused as to what makes this news as opposed to an Op-Ed, or, a Letter To The Editor. It espouses opinion, not fact, and makes no mention of the laws that govern our nation. Some laws are unpopular, like prohibition, while some are popular, like you can’t beat someone. Nevertheless, they are our laws and you cannot debate enforcement, you can only choose to change them. Those being seized and deported broke the law, what we do with that law is the question.

Dump Trump
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ANYONE in the USA – Illegally or Legally – HAS RIGHTS.

Hunter Burke
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DT: Any time a person “has rights” it is always followed by “under the law”. Laws give us rights, these illegal immigrants have broken the law, and in doing such, have given up many of their rights. Pasting your stupid reply over and over does not increase your credibility, it exemplifies the weakness of your “argument”, if you can call it that.

Kim
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“Laws give us rights” … PSA: As we taught King George, our inalienable rights are a matter of “Natural Law,” aka endowed to us by The Creator.

Jon
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Yes, they have rights which are being addressed . A local well respected immigration / deportation lawyer has weighed in with his professional opinion on the latest ICE activities: http://m.wsbradio.com/news/news/local/atlanta-immigration-attorney-defends-ice-roundups/ntkHM/

http://www.immigration.net/

Asha Jenkins
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Prick

Shannon
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What’s wrong – you can’t handle something that a anti Trump immigrant rights attorney says because it doesn’t further your opinion? And you might want to increase your vocabulary.

Kim
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I will add this … Shannon: You need to find another way to dismiss Asha. Mr. Kuck is very much NOT kind to Mr. Trump. All you have to do is browse his recent public posts at: https://www.facebook.com/CKuck

He has variously called him a liar, detached from reality and other highly complimentary things.

Kim
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I know Mr. Kuck and Mrs. Pedrazza. I would no more dismiss her opinion than his. Your reference to his opinion is welcome and any fair thinking person would seek to reconcile these opinions to each other rather than assume only one is based in truth.

Heather
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“You cannot debate enforcement”-

Actually the US as well as Georgia has a long history of agreeing to turn a blind eye to many laws when it’s convenient.

Sodomy for example was illegal in Georgia until rather recently, and while there are certainly members of the gay community that were persecuted for it, for the most part police in Atlanta weren’t in more modern times routinely rounding up gay men.

Heather
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What about the federal government choosing to look the way about federal marijuana laws?

You have people using Marijuana because they’ve been told that it’s legal by their state- while it’s technically still illegal federally.

Are you going to throw all these people in jail ?

Absurd article
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The post should be ashamed for publishing such nonsense. The article is basically a solicitation to brake the law. What miss bleeding heart fails to mention is that 95% of the raids that take place are to remove criminal illegals. Heaven forbid we take a father away from his family for being a criminal. Happens everyday but luckily for these guys they don’t go to jail, just Mexico. Your Canadian stat is entirely misleading. Also do the math for me on unpaid taxes and free healthcare for these illegals? Oops you left that out too. Lastly, these raids have been… Read more »
Dump Trump
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Says the racist Trump supporter. ANYONE in the USA – Illegally or Legally – HAS RIGHTS

ATINBF
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Your argument would be more impactful if you actually could spell – it’s “break”, “not “brake”.

Susan
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Yeah, like you or anyone else have never had problems with spell check incorrectly correcting your perfect written words.

Jesse
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Wait til your house cleaning, landscaping, poultry and fruit, and home renovation costs double. That’s when the R’s will feel the pressure.

Once the opportunity zones are enforced by mayor and council, the new developments will drive all the Buford Highway residents out without the need for ICE agents.

Heather
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And don’t forget about the cost of eating out at restaurants!

As someone that waitressed and bartended throughout high school and college I cannot think of one place that was staffed entirely by legal residents.

Sally Forth
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I would rather have the choice to pay higher prices rather than the requirement to pay higher taxes to support the illegal immigrant.

Heather
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Were you filing the same complaints when these people were building this city?

Did you demand to see the papers of everyone that built your home, place of business, and our local public facilities? Do you make sure everyone is legal before patronizing a a restaurant or place of business?

Actually- forget all those questions.

Do you you have a plan to sustain life after we’ve barbarically deported the people that help us live?

“Victory Gardens” are fun and all that, but most Americans don’t have the knowledge or resources to independently feed ourselves.

Rob
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Latinos built Atlanta? Really? Get a grip. When we moved here there were only six people in the big, fat Atlanta white pages with our Latino last name. That was well before cell phones — or the large number of illegal immigrants here now. Facts, people, facts. (Oh and most of the veggies at YDFM were not grown here.)

DresdenDog
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Are these the people who are being barbarically forced to leave. (See subject of the article) THESE ARE THE PEOPLE BEING ROUNDED UP YOU &(&(*% A local immigration attorney is defending the recent actions of U.S. Customs and Immigration Enforcement. The ICE roundups are nothing new, according to Atlanta immigration attorney Charles Kuck.  “Everything ICE is doing right now is exactly in accordance with the law and is exactly what (President) Obama did,” Kuck said. “Obama is the deportation president. He deported virtually 3 million people during his time.” More than 680 unauthorized immigrants were arrested last week, including 87… Read more »
Kim
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Mr. Kuck’s page is public. I recommend you read it before citing him again. That is not his full view and he is learning more about what is really happening. See: https://www.facebook.com/CKuck and for example, “When Trump empowers folks who fail to exercise judgment, this happens. It’s why the PRESIDENT needs to hold his tongue.” -Charles Kuck

William Jefferson Clinton
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William Jefferson Clinton

We are a nation of immigrants, but we are also a nation of laws. It is wrong and ultimately self-defeating for a nation of immigrants to permit the kind of abuse of immigration laws we have seen recently and we must do more to stop it. -1995 State of the Union Address

Chamblee Dad
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enforcing immigration laws, what a bizarre concept…

Yakety yak!
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The illegals that sneaked over the border the last 15-20 years have milked OUR system , skirted OUR laws of OUR country and thumbed their noses at OUR law abiding Americans. So they’ve broken the laws, now FINALLY we have a real president, that will ENFORCE our laws, and they all want to cry like they are victims! It’s certainly true that some of them are good people (can’t say honest), but generally good. But look at the mess their countries are in. Maybe if they would organize and stand for something, they could help root out the corruption and… Read more »
BlahBlahBlahBlah
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What a nasty, horrible comment. I laugh at the notion that their life here is easy or cushy and they are taking the easy way out. I wonder if you have ever stepped outside your privileged bubble to consider that their life here is better than where they come from but far from good or easy.

PS – A CHILD BORN HERE IS ALLOWED TO BE HERE. THEY ARE CITIZENS. THEY DID NOT ASK TO BE BORN HERE AND YOU CAN NOT DEPORT THEM. Ugh.

Heather
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Blahblah- it’s crazy but you really can’t reason with a lot of these people – especially once they reach a certain age.

We were actually told on Halloween that we were bringing crime into the neighborhood by among other things, being very inclusive to children of color.

American
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EXCUSE ME? What a racist thing to say. (age)

American
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You are right the child is an american citizen, but if the parents are criminals. Crimes against citizens of the US (more than coming into the US illegally). The parents have a choice, take the child with them or leave the child here. If you have committed a crime you have to pay the cost.

Heather
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Actually a lot of American citizens- including wealthy farm owning citizens have helped immigrants come over- in many cases there was no “sneaking” just a very institutionalalized “looking the other way”. With all the outraged Republicans concerned about terrorism- it’s curious that they’re not concerned about the opportunity for biological terrorism once we’re no longer capable of producing food in our own country. But then again, to believe that the potential to poison imported food is a threat, one has to believe in science. Can we at least agree that Americans ability to produce our own food supply is what… Read more »
flubber
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I know of a certain industry in NW Ga that routinely falsified green cards for their employees until ICE caught them.

Reality Bites
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Last Thursday, a man left his apartment on Buford Highway on his way to a friend’s, he was stopped by ICE agents, he gave them a false name, they took him into custody, he was found with 22 packets of Meth, stolen property from auto break-ins, and a pistol believed used in a series of crimes.. He is held in custody pending deportation.
A different, though realistic, version of the same story.

Heather
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So?

I once had a white Christian dude forcefully grab me by the p***y.

Maybe the cops should start driving around arresting entititled white men.

Heather
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Do you also want to mention all the brown people BPD “stops for questioning” that don’t get arrested?

Mike
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Heather: keep up with the meds, you’re getting frenetic.

Heather
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Considering the other “c word” I was called for putting a Clinton sign in my yard, I’ll consider being called crazy a step up in the world.

Eric Robert
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While “Improper Entry” into the U.S. is a criminal misdemeanor, but it needs to be proved beyond a doubt. Thus this is not why ICE is picking up these folks. They are picking them up for “Unlawful Presence” which is only a Civil violation NOT a criminal violation. And its a ridiculous use of resources. No one is saying to open the border. The border is more secure now than it ever has been. And most reliable sources peg the flow of people from Mexico and Central America into the U.S. vs. out of the U.S. at Net Zero to… Read more »
Jon
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Yep, picked up for walking across the street or “unlawful presence” ….

one man who was arrested in pleaded guilty to felony cocaine distribution charges.

A Mexican national arrested in Georgia is wanted in his homeland on homicide and attempted homicide charges.

29 of those arrested in Georgia and the Carolinas had reentered the country after being removed

17 were fugitives who had been ordered deported by federal immigration judge

Asha Jenkins
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What an insensitive prick

Sovereign Citizen
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Maybe you can help me complete my list of American laws I feel should be ignored?

Heather
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I would recommend Georgia residents start with this one. . . it certainly might make some people a lot happier.

http://www.dumblaws.com/law/1290

Heather
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And what about all of the innocent people that were “stopped for questioning” just for being brown?

Eric Robert
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And someone with a felony cocaine distribution conviction or wanted for homicide in his homeland always would have been returned. As to being a fugitive after being ordered deported by a federal immigration judge, that’s not a criminal conviction, you’ve got people who were ordered removed because who have no criminal record, they are not a public safety risk and so the Judges, since at least the 1980s have been ordering deportation but not detaining people. Thus basically people could stay but they had to make sure they never got arrested for anything including driving without a license. Calling them… Read more »
Megan
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The laws aren’t a secret, it is a risk to break them. Until the laws are changed anyone entering the country illegally is aware that they can be deported for simply being here. I can be ticked for driving 1 mile over the speed limit. You can be arrested for driving without a license. The likelihood of being caught or having the full extent of the penalty applied is minimal but it does exist and it is not a secret.

Kim
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Jon: Those are horrendous and mostly unforgivable crimes. That represents 45-50 of the 200 rounded up in the week. Aren’t you at least curious about the rest? Why isn’t ICE talking about those other cases. I know one neighbor who was picked up, not on the list, no criminal record according to his own family (why would they lie if they are afraid of ICE coming back??), and ICE refused to comment to 11-Alive on the man’s case. I’m not here to be argumentative. I am hear to challenge the narrative that everything is hunky dory or that the end… Read more »
B\'haven Birdie
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…”But Gillian Christensen, acting press secretary for the Department of Homeland Security, said, “The focus of these targeted enforcement operations is consistent with the routine, targeted arrests carried out by ICE’s Fugitive Operations Teams on a daily basis….

…“The official said the arrests had not been impromptu and had been planned around individuals’ routines,…

All these people are in violation of some sort of immigration law,” the official said, adding that some of their convictions included rape and aggravated assault. “We’re not going out to Walmart to check papers — we know who we are going out to seek.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/12/nyregion/immigration-arrests-sanctuary-city.html

Eric Robert
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That maybe how they are doing it in New York but not down here.

TheTruthIsFun
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That is exactly what they are doing here. Every single person that was picked up during the raid was on a list and had previously committed a crime, they didn’t just walk down Buford Hwy and throw random people in a van. As much as this opinion piece would like to paint that picture, it’s just not the truth. You’re welcome to read more from ICE regarding this ongoing series of targeted raids that’s been happening for over 5 years here: https://www.ice.gov/doclib/news/library/factsheets/pdf/factsheet-fugops.pdf

Heather
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That’s interesting because they came by my house two- three times yesterday (once again) and none of us have committed any crimes.

And I have pictures to prove it.

DresdenDog
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Which was it? 2 OR 3 times? It was an exact #. And, came by as in drove by or knocked on your door, walked around your property? Post pictures please.

Eric Robert
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No one ever said this is the first time raids were done. And yes in the when Bush Jr. was president and initially under Obama they were deporting people who had no criminal convictions. And they are going back to that now. In the letter you provided a link to they said for the recent raids “and other enforcement priorities.” Look the way these raids work is that they go in claiming to look for somebody and then force everyone to provide identification. You are not supposed to have to do that in the U.S.A. As to who they are… Read more »
bldvl89
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Illegal immigration has always been a problem in this country. Ask any Indian.

Kim
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bldvl89, on behalf of indigenous people everywhere and those that simply love irony, thank you.

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