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  1. 1

    Eric Robert

    I’ve lived a long life with video surveillance. Yes its great for solving crimes but as this “safety net” becomes all encompassing I just hope if Trump, driven by his malignant narcissism, is able to dismantle all checks and balances it doesn’t fall under his control!
    Having Nanny Cameras on every corner could give a whole new meaning to Nanny State.

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    Eric Robert

    I meant….I’ve lived a long life WITHOUT video surveillance.

  3. 3

    Toff

    Do it. Stick one on Buford Hwy, 5 out of 10 cars are uninsured. Bingo.

  4. 4

    Brittany Mother

    You just might be surprised what you’ll find in D1 and I’m talking about residents​.

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    Barbara

    This is creepy and terrifying. More importantly, it will do nothing to stop crime and is only a way for the city to track citizens. We need new leadership in ALL areas of this city.

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    Saul

    Sure Eric, right.

    I haven’t lived with video surveillance​ as I haven’t spent any time in prison. But it looks like that’s where Brookhaven insists on heading. It’ll make you feel right at home.

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    Saul

    Isn’t more government and the taxation it ultimately demands great?

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    Eric Robert

    Toff, I doubt that. Police cars have those cameras or devices on them that instantly read plates and flags cars driving by without insurance because within 30 or 45 days of insurance expiring your registration/plates expire. Most people . . . especially those who I assume you are referring to know that driving without insurance will land you and expensive ticket and perhaps a night in the DeKalb County jail. Though your point raises a valid point. The stated purpose of Driver’s License and Insurance requirements are Public Safety. And that is a very valid reason. But if that is the purpose why not allow all residents to get a license? Why did some states like GA start restricting which residents could get Driver’s Licenses? It has nothing to do with Public Safety and in fact probably runs counter to the goal of Public Safety. http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/news/story/2011/oct/04/new-georgia-immigration-law-produces-more-fear-eff/60574/

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    Mike

    So when, where does it stop? This is truly a Pandora’s box being opened.

  10. 10

    Resident

    ….and the negative comments keep on coming!

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    Big Brother

    It’s creepy enough. Until the police find out who shot your neighbor in the leg while picking flowers in like 24 hours. Then it’s awesome.

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    Front yard tv star

    Pretty soon we won’t even need so many police cars or officers. We will however need a bunch of computer screens and some comfy chairs so the officers can just sit on their asses at HQ and watch the Brookhaven show all day.

    Is the Chief going to ask for fewer officers now? No.

    And aren’t we already the safest city in DeKalb?

  13. 13

    Allen Funt

    Brookhaven was started on the 4 Ps. Parks, Police, planning, paving. Agreed. The cameras are a bit creepy. Be sure to dress appropriately when mowing your lawn. Oh and don’t duck behind the bushes to pee. You’re on candid camera.

  14. 14

    Eddie E.

    I will be working on a license plate cloaking device.
    More to come.

  15. 15

    Support the PD

    APD has over 8500 cameras throughout the city that have helped recover several stolen vehicles. This type of system isn’t to track citizens it to track criminals. If the PD wants to put a camera on my street that may help bust a criminal who’s only purpose of being there is to break in my home then I say hell yes. I’ve got nothing to hide so you can scan my tag and video my car driving on public roads all you want.

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    John

    I hope they have some in Doraville and Chamblee too, all cities deserve safety, not just the wealthy ones.

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    Ossifer Barney

    Chief Gary is doing a great job making Brookhaven secure. He has been thinking about recruiting civilians to fill in the voids where cameras can’t reach. Seeing how we have an abundance of homed and homeless furry friends, this is up for thought. Chief Gary wants to expand on this concept and add video cameras too. That way our department can keep an eye on your every move, ah, I mean everything.

    https://tinyurl.com/nxekorj

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    Mike

    But will it stop there? (with only criminal activity). Once the data is born and available all kinds of other uses could pop up. When the next recession hits and the city needs $money$ whose to say they won’t sell to private interests who could use that data to sell me something or worse?

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    Support the PD

    License plate scanning data is already being sold in the private sector. It’s big business. The point here is to strategically place them in hot spots for crime not your neighborhood streets. I can assure you any of the nay sayers who may be victimized near these areas known for crime will be the first to ask is the cameras caught anything.

  20. 20

    Support the PD

    You mean like firefighters? Everyone loves them though….

  21. 21

    Support the PD

    OCGA 40-2-6.1 Nice try

  22. 22

    Heather

    When we were repeated stalked, intimidated, threatened, staked out and quite frankly TERRORIZED at- and later IN- our HOME (including with guns) the repeated bullying neighborhood response was “why do you care if you have nothing to hide?”

    Now that people might have a little camera catching whether they run a red light or stop sign- NOW they care?

    Sorry if I can’t give these two-faced individuals full of double standards a lot of pity.

  23. 23

    The Chemist

    That may be law but my name says it all.

  24. 24

    Heather

    Lol, this is awesome. 🙂Between my crappy cell phone typing and IPhone autocorrect (that I swear is out to get me), I thought I was the worst. . . but saying “I’ve lived a long life with video surveillance” may be the best I’ve seen yet. 😉

  25. 25

    Heather

    I’d be less worried about that and more concerned if you have a neighborhood association that pays off-duty police officers money– and you get on their bad side. They’ll probably start busting people they don’t like for not waiting four seconds at a stop sign and accuse you of the most extreme take- like reckless driving or something else equally or more bizarro.

    I can say from personal experience that is nightmarishly scary and traumatizing to be disliked by Neighborhood Association bigwigs that pay money to the Brookhaven Police Department.

  26. 26

    Eddie E.

    I just wonder where people grew up so they are afraid of everyone they see walking down the street?
    The very idea we need constant surveillance (and the staff to watch it) is truly preposterous!

  27. 27

    Heather

    I think it may very well be “senior issue” related.

    I didn’t think it could get crazier than the nonsense about my big dog- who can barely even hobble to the end of my driveway-supposedly terrorizing Pine Hills and digging up yards *miles*away-

    But no! It can apparently always get worse. . . because the latest semi-senile fit is that I’m supposedly growing pot in my living room.

  28. 28

    Heather and

    “Support the PD”?

    Yeah, I’m pretty sure we’re already supporting them by paying their salaries and pensions- beyond that- further support-particularly of the RaRaRa! vocal variety- is earned.

    Oddly enough I’ve had the exact same dog breed of the one that is bullied (basically terrorized) in Pine Hills Brookhaven as I had in New York City (which obviously doesn’t have the best police PR right now) yet not once- NOT ONCE- did I ever have a NYPD officer go for their gun for my dog– and I saw them multiple times daily.

    I understand it’s a tough situation when these Brookhaven Police Officers are being paid money by Neighborhood Associations and they feel like need or have become dependent on their extra money—- but frankly that’s not my problem.

    I’ve had lower paying jobs before and always behaved ethically and held onto my moral values.

    “Support the PD”? Sure.

    But maybe they should support ALL the law-abiding citizens that are paying them.

  29. 29

    Heather and

    This is what happens when semi-senile senior citizens get too much of a voice in neighborhood or local government.

  30. 30

    Truth

    As a former Brookhaven Police, I wonder where this cameras will be placed? Honestly, there is a reason why I left. If it is to continue the status quo, then, I have to strongly disagree with its process. Many areas that is habitat of minorities are treated differently in comparison to the more socio-economic communities. This is one of the reason they have a high turnover rate of officers leaving.

  31. 31

    Enuff Govt Already

    The chief has already said that they will not be behind a desk monitoring cameras. The pole cameras that read license plates will be used differently than the license plate cameras in the police cars. The cameras in the cars are being monitored by the officer in the car and display information that can be acted on immediately. The license plate monitoring cameras on the poles will be data collection tools. Both are legal but Orwellian.

  32. 32

    Heather and

    Yes, because if the police say it then it must be true.

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    alan smithee

    Interesting memo, but it’s just a memo. Is the actual contract with GA Power and BPD available for review? Some of my questions: How long is the data retained? How does BP obtain the data? Do they need to request it each time from GA Power, or do they have online access when ever they need it? Or is there a mirror at the BPD? Are requests for the data logged? Who keeps the log? Does the log fall under GA open records laws? Can citizens request and receive data? And if so, under what terms? Does the request go through BPD? What if they are not investigating a criminal action and you request data (for insurance perhaps)? What kind of security is GA Power using to protect against intrusions. What are we getting for $368k other than the camera? What’s the city’s liability on failed cameras? The list goes on and on, but I think you get the idea. As always, the devil is in the details.

  35. 35

    Concerned Citizen

    Truth, would you mind explaining your experiences with the BPD in further detail about what you did and didn’t like? But, I wouldn’t be surprised at all if BPD tends to, whether consciously or not, treat certain areas of the city (Buford Highway Corridor) alot different than other areas (Murphey Candler Park area).

  36. 36

    Soto

    The mayor, the big one, he said that long time ago. He dont like the Buford road. He give big white men bad name.

  37. 37

    Guest

    But you’re still keeping tabs…..#truth

  38. 38

    Saul

    His concern may primarily be based on his past business associates. As Brookhaven residents we need to be concerned as it relates to the management of an important department in our city and our public safety. Please note, being shared is information our city will never share with Brookhaven residents. Unless you are a part of the city government, why would you want to silence any source of information about the behind the scenes operation of our city? Most of us are intelligent enough to acertain fact from fiction.

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    Eddie E.

    Probably not as important as most of the ‘behinds’ are no longer part of the ‘scene’.

  40. 40

    Eddie E.

    Why don’t we have a referendum, then let this particularly ridiculous idea die quietly.

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