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Janelle
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Janelle

Who’s included in the PCG?

Heather
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Heather

Of course they do- they wanted to take over backyards in Pine Hills, so don’t be surprised if they go back to that, you know “for the greater good”.

Brookhaven has already started bullying people regarding stream buffers. We had to get yet another land survey done at our house because Brookhaven was once again attacking it. Surprise, surprise – we are once again NOT in any sort of 75 ft violation- something which is pretty obvious to anyone that’s not seeing impaired.

Janine
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Janine

Sooo WRONG! PCG Group? 10 more self-important people who think they know what’s best for everyone else. Just like the BPCA. Makes me sick.

But we are special ....
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But we are special ....

We, the self important elites know what is best for you (walk, bike), the city (urban all the way baby!), and the environment (big buildings and wide sidewalks trees are for the birds) so stay out of our way or we will take it from you.

Susan
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Susan

Ha! Not the majority, just a chosen few! And that isn’t me and you!

Susan
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Susan

This is the Brookhaven that the majority wanted.

Welcome to your Brookhaven.

KHN
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KHN

Brookhaven getting better & better. We need this, so excited! From what I’ve seen it’s going to be even better than the Beltline i.e. more picturesque & shadier than just a sidewalk (which is basically what the Beltline is). Great that the city is giving attention to this waterway and bringing it to life for all of us to enjoy! *Heather & Janine (and other naysayers) please refrain from making a snide comment @ me just b/c I have a difference of opinion.*

Andy
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Andy

You are just going to love the aroma that permeates the area around the creek bank! Ode de Toilet!

Heather
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Heather
My comment isn’t “snide”- it’s the truth. After 4+ surveys done by different reputable surveyors Brookhaven officials came by again, eyeballed our property- DIDN’T MEASURE IT THEMSELVES- and said “Oh well it still *looks like* closer than 75 ft to me!” So once again, we had to get yet another survey. It’s a waste of time and money- and not just ours- everyone’s taxes go to pay their salaries and I imagine gas and vehicle expenses as well. Once they came out- didn’t tell me they were here, and were snooping around our yard taking zoom lens pics of our… Read more »
Barbara
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Barbara

Heather, you need to stop that. They can’t keep doing that to you, it is harassment. This city is no different than dekalb and we hire the same people they do. And that problem starts at the top with Christian Sigman and John Ernst. Once you have proven them wrong stop speaking to them, tell the manager they are not to be on your property again, if they do come call the police and have them issue a trespassing warning. Either way you need to hire and attorney to send a letter.

Heather
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Heather

Thanks, everything finally worked out about a month ago (and hopefully it stays that way)- and not a second too soon because we started seriously considering selling our home and moving out of Brookhaven. We had our home appraised and a good percentage of stuff is in boxes. I’m not the type of person that just gives up, but dealing with both the city and neighborhood association and patrol problems it was just too much. Your home is a place you want to relax, not think, “Oh gawd what now” regularly.

Barbara
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Barbara

So Brookhaven adopts a 75 buffer/wetlands ordinance and then uses that ordinance to devalue property and offer lower than the owner wants to take? Since he wont sell, the city takes their BS number to a judge to force the sale. This is the leadership of Sigman at its best. How the hell we all thought Garrett was so bad is crazy, this city manager needs to be removed, now.

Does this mean that any resident of Brookhaven living near a wetland or stream will be paid for the city all but TAKING their land too???

Eddie E.
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Eddie E.

What was the buffer ordinance under Dekalb County?
The first bogus Brookhaven government just ignored the law and reality.
The buffer should be 150 feet.
If you don’t want to buy and protect valuable collective water resources, don’t!

Heather
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Heather

What are they going to do to all the houses within 150 ft? Make us move? I’m not being sarcastic this is an honest question.

Heather\'s
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Heather\'s

I got it. Those of us within the 150 ft buffer could just add a pond to our back yard. That would keep us from having to put a pool in the front yard! Problem solved!

Heather
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Heather

Are you one of the men in my neighborhood that keeps coming by my house and staring? Just so you know, it’s starting to get a little creepy.

Eddie E.
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Eddie E.

No new construction within 150′ anywhere. No “variances” for stream buffer incursion, ever again. No new hard surfaces within 150′. Any teardowns would require adjustment of the structure to meet the buffer.
This is entirely possible and is necessary for long term stream health.
That the county made terrible decisions on siting of structures and pavement in the past should never be interpreted as cause to continue making terrible decisions in perpetuity.

Barbara
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Barbara
1. I dont get a choice to buy “valuable water resources”, that decision is made for all of us 2. I have no issue with a buffer, I have an issue they they establish the buffer then use it as means to say property is worth less and demand a court to issue a sale. 3. This city government is run like a circus. We need drastic changes in leadership. Sigman must be removed as must the mayor and most of the council. This is everything we voted to stop when we became a city.
Eddie E.
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Eddie E.

Barbara, let me simplify. If your property has some artificially inflated value due to some ‘future use’ you may have in mind, the sooner you come to realize that use will not be allowed, the sooner you will realize what the actual value is.

Heather
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Heather

Real estate agents are already steering clients away from buying homes with creek frontage for fear of continued use of eminent domain– so the devaluation of other properties has already started.

Eddie E.
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Eddie E.

If the stream buffer is protected, there is no reason to be concerned.
Many people will even pay more for active, protective stewardship!

Heather
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Heather

I used to live on protected conservation land in Massachusetts and the way Brookhaven is running things could not be more different. . . .

Heather
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Heather

No offense, but you really don’t know a lot of Brookhaven residents that well. One of the threats we got after offering to to completely sponsor (purchase and maintain) a dogipot on our corner was that Pine Hills residents should all save up their feces and drive it to our house and dump it in our yard.

Eddie E.
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Eddie E.

That’s nice.
That isn’t part of the discussion in Ashford Park.

Saul
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Saul

I talked to a realtor yesterday that said she had several people decline to look at Brookhaven homes because of negative things they had heard about our city government and some residents. I asked for details but she preferred not to elaborate. If true, that will discount your house a little too.

Eddie E.
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Eddie E.

Possibly, unless the buffer is rigorously enforced so there are not enormous costs for runoff contamination forced upon all city taxpayers.
Why would Brookhaven Residents be above the LAW?

Eddie E.
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Eddie E.

I realize you have a problem with a neighbor but I cannot comprehend what that has to do with appropriate stream buffer and protection?

Heather
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Heather
The city literally did not measure- they eyeballed our property and said it “looked like” we were violating the stream buffer ordinance- despite multiple surveys showing otherwise. How is this competent? It’s either incompetent or vindictive or petty. And they did finally admit that we were NOT in violation, but only after wasting our time and money for surveys that all prove the same thing. I feel like it’s worth noting that we have no political influence or construction etc contacts so it’s not like we were under suspicion of getting people to falsify our property surveys or something.
Heather
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Heather

For the record none of our neighbors’ surveys show we are violating the stream buffer ordinance or dispute/call in to question the validity of our many property surveys.

In fact they further prove that we are not violating any ordinance or breaking the law.

It’s all so exhausting.

Eddie E.
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Eddie E.

If you are within the code, what is the concern?

Heather
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Heather

That I believe is the million dollar question.

Barbara
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Barbara

There is a reason so many new homes are sitting in Brookhaven and not elsewhere. This city is not run well and people know it. Sandy springs or Decatur is much better than the Christian sigman circus.

Eddie E.
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Eddie E.

I believe there are homes for sale in Sandy Springs and Decatur if you find that so attractive.

Ellen
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Ellen

LOL. Maybe Babs will move.

Eddie E.
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Eddie E.

The concept of legitimate governance seems to give her the vapors.

Susan
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Susan

Eddie, she has the vapors and you turn Japanese? LOL!

Facts are Fun
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Facts are Fun

A few things. (1) the stream buffer is identical to the DeKalb ordinances–nothing has changed with Brookhaven, (2) the city has actually offered more than the original asking price when the property was listed several years ago, but the owner jacked the price when he found a “captive” buyer.

This City is using legal tools to negotiate a sale price. It would be an irresponsible use of taxpayer $$$ to NOT use all means available to negotiate the best price.

Barbara
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Barbara

So you think it is responsible for Brookhaven to spend countless thousands of our dollars to all but sue someone to force them to sell the land to the city? Thats responsible? If the guys wants $130,000,000 then thats what he wants. This is not for a highway, its for a park entrance. Why the hell do we have a park with no access anyway??? This is wrong.

Eddie E.
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Eddie E.

He could probably get that much if it could be permitted for a nuclear waste dump but it can’t and he won’t.

Barbara
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Barbara

Yeah, or we could all pay a little extra in taxes for you to move

Eddie E.
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Eddie E.

Did you Major in missing the point?

Barbara
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Barbara

Do you remember the last time you were nice to anyone on this site? Good have you here, neighbor.

Eddie E.
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Eddie E.

I’m nice to many.
I have a problem with anyone who pretends to be above the law.

Thomas Porter
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Thomas Porter

June 29, 2017 – Mayor & City Council decide whether to use eminent domain.
June 30, 2017 – Mayor & City Council dedicate controversial Comfort Women memorial.
November 7, 2017 – Half the City Council comes up for reelect, or not.

Brandi
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Brandi

What is wrong with comfort women memorial?

Thanks
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Thanks

I am proud that our city it honoring the sculpture and for the life of me I do not understand why people are freaking out.

Heather
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Heather

I’ve talked several real estate agents that are now advising people to stay away from creek/stream front properties in Brookhaven for fear of future eminent domain use– so this isn’t just hurting the seller it’s harming a good number of people that might like to sell or, at minimum, not have their home or property devalue.

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